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Programs and more Programs => Poser => Poser Tutorials => Topic started by: Jherrith on May 03, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
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It is getting to that point where my original categories and sorting is starting to be less organized and more cluttered.
Case in point all the clothing that fits V4, A4, G4 currently I have them sorted by the character that I would use it on by default.
However that is starting to be problematic, considering the thought of one folder for all the universal clothing but broke down by type, warrior, naughty, swimwear, and so forth.
Does that sound logical?
I would think the characters can be in their own folders for morphs and textures and anything that is unique for them only.
Would hold true for Cookie, Near_Me, Sadie, Mavka and so forth,
... still sound reasonable?
All the animals is fairly simple as to a species type and then one big one for all the Songbird Remix products. Same is probably true for the botanical stuff.
Now for the real problem ... props.
So how would one break that down, we have multiple styles of buildings. From Asian, gothic bits, Steampunk, dungeons and the list goes on. What about vehicles ... and so forth.
Any thoughts on names for categories and breakdown of content for a more organized and user friendly runtime.
Thought about by vendor name but hell I am lucky to remember my name on certain days of the century ... :zipit: I so did not say that out loud .... did I?
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Can't help you there, as I have everything in one Runtime library. Then again, I only use M4 and V4.
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Darn if I did that it would take forever and a century for Poser to load and one would never be able to find anything in that jumble.
What about the idea on breaking down the clothing? Thoughts, refinements, yes, no?
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Really, as long as you keep them in their proper original folders you can make all the different libraries you want. Just don't go renaming their folders or things won't load and you'll have to go look for them and apply them manually.
Yeah, it does take a long time for Poser to load my Pose library in particular. I don't like the way it loads since PP 2012 - you have to open the library or it doesn't load until you do. It all just used to load. It took a little longer but at least when you opened the library it was loaded.
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Well, that is the beauty of individual runtimes.
With multiple runtimes for each character, as mentioned when you open Poser it is only loading the last open runtime which enables it to open quicker.
And once open I can switch to any other runtime with no delay or resource drain, as it is only trying to read that one runtime not my entire collection which in my case as I am sure in yours is measured in GB ....
Instead of the one massive runtime in which you have to wait on the entire runtime to load before Poser will open.
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What version are you using? Poser opens with PP2012 and PP2014, but then you have to wait for the runtime library you want to load.
One thing I did that at least allows me to plop my character in there is I made a .pz3 file with M4 injected and one with V4 injected and I just import those files into the opening scene, then save them to whatever I want to be. It saves a little time. You'll get duplicate lights though doing it that way. Just reload the lights you want. THEN, I have to wait for the morphs in the Pose library to load - LOL. Really, you can do the same thing with each character or specifically morphed characters.
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We are in Poser 9 at the moment.
I too in my DAZ people folder for V4 we have a default character of V4 with all morphs loaded to give me a one click loading. Yes, it takes a bit for her to load due to loading the full set of morphs but it is better then doing it every single time.
I have the same default starting point for all my main characters created and saved. So we are on that same page as thee.
Granted I even replaced the lighting on them before we saved it out so I have a starting point for decent lighting already loaded with each character.
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Well You could go
Character Runtime
Make sub directories that describe what is inside
So under pose you would have Skin / Hair / Shoe / Dress / Props / Environment
You could have those under each Separate Runtime
The major problem is the more complex to you break it up the more You have to dig to remember where you put stuff and who made what.
Example I have all My V4 Stuff under one runtime
I have all my Environments under another
All My Vehicles in another
if I get some thing that goes to multiple figures I duplicate it to all the figures it goes to and delete the extra for other characters in that runtime.
I guess you could just make a Runtime that goes V4 Dresses
But So far the V4 main Would have a Dress sub in each then shoe Etc...
O.o :thud:
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I just found this thread.
I ran into the organizing problem real quick with Poser. DS and the CMS would be an absolute poop slinging nightmare for anyone with OCD's for neatness or counting. GAH!I SO prefer the neat organization the Poser NEEDS. Easy to get along with.
Props, if it moves...3D Work TRANSPORT which is the base folder in the drives ROOT, I have 42 of these now. Then, in each Library category of Transport, simple groups like Aircraft, Autos, Military, Sci-Fi Fantasy, Space, Utility, Vessels-
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---Libraries
----Character
------Aircraft (real planes)
------Autos (real automobiles)
------Military (real tanks, guns, etc)
------Sci-Fi Fantasy (FICTION like Star Trek, Star Wars, etc!------Space (real like Hubble, Apollo, Planets)
------Utility (trains tractors roadwork and construction equipment)
------Vessels (real boats, ships, submarines)-
Now do same for Camera, Face, Hair, Hand, Light, Materials, Morphs, Pose, Props, Scene (if and as needed).
Character, Light, Pose, Props and Scene are the most needed.
Then I have a runtime called THINGS, Places (a, b, c and d!), Plants are obviously needed. Then I DO have a few vendor named Runtimes. One for Birdman, DM, Redhouse, Stonemason. I mean hey, anything that has some 100 items or MORE really needs its own runtime, the way I see it. then the MAJOR Figures, like A3, Kids4, M4, V4, DAZ People, Poser People, Other People, Terai Yuki 2, Centaurs, Animals. Yep. OH then there are V4 Characters 1, 2. V4 Clothes 1, 2 and 3. LaFemme. All HAIR is in its own Runtime and each Library Category has vendor named folders first with Hair named folders next.
I hope some of these ideas can be helpful to someone else. I am sure everyone will develop their very own filing system for all their content. Just like in your own personal library.
No Two People Think Alike! and this dam editro skusc !!!!
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Haven't mess much with the topic since I first posted. Thinking my best bet is going to be to buy a large external and transfer all zips and so forth and then sort it out on there and refine the sorting of, then finally build a runtime based on the sort job.
Then the dreaded delete said runtime on Stormbringer and install the new and improved one. Most likely will have to move any current project off as all of the previous associations would be broken at that point.
Definitely leaning towards having vendor specific runtimes as I have been browsing to buy and can't tell if I already have it and if so where did I install it especially if it is for all iterations of V4
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Initially, when I bought the Pioneer BluRay burners, I planned to limit each runtime to 23 gigs max. So now, 7 years later, you might imagine that limit went to the dust bin. And you'd be right. So I AM still burning the occasional 25 gig BluRay storage disk. But it is filled with .zips and .arj files, not 'installed runtimes'. For smaller runtimes I consider REALLY important I just burn that straight to a 4 gig DVD. Or even a CD. Then in the disk books they go.
Back when the spinner drives were crashing left and right, PSU's popping every couple years, all those archived content sets sure came in handy. But in those 'limited' size runtimes, every time a vendor came out with new things I buy, it went into their specific folder in the given runtime. Which meant that 23 gig limit got flooded over every which way. I tried sorting, moving, relocating all kinds of things. And OH did the confusion abound! So, I gave that up for lost cause. And NOW, am about to MOVE the entire set of Runtimes to a 2TB drive from the 1TB drive they are on now.Since I started using SSD's, because of YOUR using one or two on Stormbringer actually, I began collecting them. The oldest ones will be replaced with new 2TB ones. All the old ones will be used for backup duty for the OS and whatever else I need when the time comes. This is made very easy with using the USB SATA dual drive bay. I am gonna move them into BadMoonRYZEN, and move a pair of old ones out to that drive bay.500 gigs is the current boot drive. Too small, as SOME things just have to be installed on only the boot drive to work. I have a lot of things that fit that description.
And so, the history of my computer problems being lessons well learnt...I never depend on any ONE backup for safety. And I DO have the expectancy of drive failure at some time. No Guarantees against failure!