Space Weather

[DarkAngel]

I noticed, I thought I was in the wrong place....that is how with it I am  today and yesterday

[sidherose]

I was out looking at Venus this morning and boy is it BRIGHT!! Anyway, it reminded me of this video I've seen on YT a couple of times but never watched because of the absurdity of the title. It's something about "Wouldn't Venus be a better choice than Mars to colonize?"



I watched it until I couldn't stand it any more. My mouth was getting dry from hanging open in disbelief. Never mind the massive CO2, the crushing atmosphere and the surface temperature...and that Venus is constantly 'resurfacing' itself.

Never mind that Mars is and has been subject to devastating asteroid hits. One took the whole northern polar region off. You can see it on the surface images. What made the Mariner Rift Valley in front of the Solar System's largest volcano? No magnetosphere to speak of to protect from Solar Flares. Known to have months long sand storms....

Someone down in the comments said: "I've got an idea! Let's stay on Earth!"

  :pleeeeez:

[dRaCX]

You're spoiling my fun here, I want to see them get eaten by sand worms!
 

[sidherose]

[thelufias]

LOLOL.....If they are there DrX,  we need to rename Mars to Dune.   Loved that Movie...loved those worms....

I was up early Ray but we have those dang Storm Clouds hanging around.  But on a good note...the snow we got was a dusting....Travis got 6"......I think someone said Chicago got close to 12"  will have to check that out....

[Agent0013]

I was out looking at Venus this morning and boy is it BRIGHT!! Anyway, it reminded me of this video I've seen on YT a couple of times but never watched because of the absurdity of the title. It's something about "Wouldn't Venus be a better choice than Mars to colonize?"

 

I watched it until I couldn't stand it any more. My mouth was getting dry from hanging open in disbelief. Never mind the massive CO2, the crushing atmosphere and the surface temperature...and that Venus is constantly 'resurfacing' itself.

Never mind that Mars is and has been subject to devastating asteroid hits. One took the whole northern polar region off. You can see it on the surface images. What made the Mariner Rift Valley in front of the Solar System's largest volcano? No magnetosphere to speak of to protect from Solar Flares. Known to have months long sand storms....

Someone down in the comments said: "I've got an idea! Let's stay on Earth!"

  :pleeeeez:

There is an argument about that, which I subscribe to. It concerns the survival of the life we have on Earth. If we keep all of our eggs in one basket (so to speak), we could lose it all in one big catastrophic event, such as an asteroid strike.


Now your arguments concerning either Venus or Mars as a good choice are quite valid. Those problems with those two planets are very real concerns indeed. So what would be a more feasible option of colonizing other worlds? The answer would have to be "Constructed Space Habitats". We could build several, and the more we build, the greater chance of survival life will have.


I know. There's the argument of expense, but I think if we all come together on the expense, it could be done. As for the resources needed to make it happen, There's plenty in the Solar System to choose from. Mining would be just a matter of directing asteroids to a convenient location, and setting up space flight routes to move mined materials to the Space Refineries.


If one thinks clearly about it, this could create a robust space economy, generating businesses that would explode with potential.

[RodS]

I keep seeing Venus on my south-facing security cam every morning (at least on those mornings when we're not in the middle of a blizzard..). It is bright!


Just watched the live feed from NASA on the InSight landing on Mars. On the surface safely. 

[thelufias]

As did I LOL.....  Good thing they have three feeds to view from....they were hung out to dry on their first web broadcast.  No audio

[sidherose]

I had to think about putting this one up, as I'm sure that there will be some uh 'aversion' to some of what is said - particularly at the end. It's not all stuff we want to think about really. But in a way this is "one man crying out in the wilderness" and he has perfectly good reasons to do so. I find it all quite interesting though on many levels. Maybe you will too:

[sidherose]

There is an argument about that, which I subscribe to. It concerns the survival of the life we have on Earth. If we keep all of our eggs in one basket (so to speak), we could lose it all in one big catastrophic event, such as an asteroid strike.


Now your arguments concerning either Venus or Mars as a good choice are quite valid. Those problems with those two planets are very real concerns indeed. So what would be a more feasible option of colonizing other worlds? The answer would have to be "Constructed Space Habitats". We could build several, and the more we build, the greater chance of survival life will have.


I know. There's the argument of expense, but I think if we all come together on the expense, it could be done. As for the resources needed to make it happen, There's plenty in the Solar System to choose from. Mining would be just a matter of directing asteroids to a convenient location, and setting up space flight routes to move mined materials to the Space Refineries.


If one thinks clearly about it, this could create a robust space economy, generating businesses that would explode with potential.

Have you ever seen the movie "Silent Running" with Bruce Dern, Agent? Or one called "Outland" with Sean Connery?

What you said above brought those to mind.

Yes...well, the Hadron Collider could theoretically open up a black hole that would eat this planet, then another and another, out to the Oort Cloud and beyond. The scientists know this but it's a chance that's taken to get what they're after - the 'God particle'. That strikes me, along with a lot of other stuff we try to do and end up poisoning ourselves with - as playing God. We may be 'expressions of our Creator' but we don't know jack about any of what we mess with. It's all theoretical because they never admit their failures and successes. We are a destructive race exactly because we are so greedy and 'industrious'. We never have cared historically what the cost was to the environment or the people living in it, as long was we got what we wanted or needed. I'm going back at least 3600 years here from the Indus Valley Civilization. As a race, we are always going to suck the life out of everything we touch, like a lot of vampires. So, I can't share your enthusiasm for 'manning up space' and 'generating a robust space economy.'

But, that's just me.