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Re: Letter from a Court Accepted Expert on Walls
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2019, 01:58:59 PM »
Fine.

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Re: Letter from a Court Accepted Expert on Walls
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2019, 02:10:08 PM »
If anyone else desires to post an opinion please do, I have made the points I wished to convey on the topic and hopefully with the other points made here, there will be enough information for others to decide how they feel on the topic.

Or at the very least ... investigate ... then decide ....

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Re: Letter from a Court Accepted Expert on Walls
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2019, 04:38:27 PM »
Just as a point of interest, you might like to read this  - all of it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006#Provisions


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Re: Letter from a Court Accepted Expert on Walls
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2019, 12:15:52 AM »
I personally feel that a good solid chain-link fence like those used around prisons and watch towers with armed guards would do the job.

Give them state of the art weapons and the right to use lethal force. Put signs up within 100 yards of the fence that clearly read....'Go beyond this point and lethal force will be used!'

Be it man, woman, or little Bo Peep & her stupid sheep...all get the same treatment! Shot!

After all, if you read a sign that clearly states you'll be shot if you go any further and yet you proceed?! then yeah...you deserve it!

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Re: Letter from a Court Accepted Expert on Walls
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2019, 11:31:58 AM »

Hadrian built a wall across the English-Scottish border to keep the Scots out of England. It didn't work but it's still mostly there a symbol of failure and hatred to the English and Scots both.


Actually, Hadrian's Wall wasn't built to keep anyone out. It was a manned (by the Romans) border crossing. Passage either way was only on payment of toll and probably taxation of goods. 

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Re: Letter from a Court Accepted Expert on Walls
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2019, 12:50:40 PM »
There are many explanations and theories about Hardrians Wall.

"Another possible explanation for the wall is the degree of control it would have provided over immigration, smuggling and customs Limits did not strictly mark the boundaries of the empire: Roman power and influence often extended beyond the walls.

People within and beyond the limits traveled through it each day when conducting business, and organised check-points like those offered by Hadrian's Wall provided good opportunities for taxation.

With watch towers only a short distance from gateways in the limits, patrolling legionaries could have kept track of entering and exiting natives and Roman citizens alike, charging customs dues and checking for smuggling.[citation needed]"
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Re: Letter from a Court Accepted Expert on Walls
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2019, 07:19:30 PM »
I personally feel that a good solid chain-link fence like those used around prisons and watch towers with armed guards would do the job.

Give them state of the art weapons and the right to use lethal force. Put signs up within 100 yards of the fence that clearly read....'Go beyond this point and lethal force will be used!'

Be it man, woman, or little Bo Peep & her stupid sheep...all get the same treatment! Shot!

After all, if you read a sign that clearly states you'll be shot if you go any further and yet you proceed?! then yeah...you deserve it!

'Shoot em all & let God sort it out!'
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If you enter the legal ... fine and dandy

If you choose not to, then you reap what you sow ...
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Re: Letter from a Court Accepted Expert on Walls
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2019, 10:12:21 PM »
If you enter the legal ... fine and dandy

If you choose not to, then you reap what you sow ...

Right, I have no issues with those who enter this country legally. They become tax paying citizens and contribute to the overall health of our economy. They in short become bound by the laws in this country, while illegals are not! Illegals take from us all that they can and send it back to their own people.
 

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Re: Letter from a Court Accepted Expert on Walls
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2019, 06:50:43 PM »
That is certainly part of the solution, but there is a much bigger picture here that needs to be addressed.  The majority of countries that these illegal immigrants are fleeing from are in:
a.)political turmoil
b.)severe fiscal distress
c.)political corruptness
d.)a combination of any or all of the above
Instead of cutting off those countries, why don't we try to help them fix what is wrong?  Not just the US and Mexico, but the entire UN should be involved in the solution.  We are not the only country dealing with illegal immigrants. 
Instead of investing a ton of money in an antiquated, ineffectual "wall", why not take a fraction of that money, fund better security measures that won't impede natural resources and create flooding hazards?  Yes, there is already fencing in some areas and yes, a different congress and different Republican president signed the laws that made that happen. 
Fencing is permeable.  That president didn't set out to enrage half of the country.  That congress was willing to work in a bipartisan manner.
None of those things are true today.  Instead of fighting among ourselves and playing right into the hands of those who would see this country divided, why don't we try to find common ground. 

The solution is to have Mexico take some of the responsibility in keeping folks from making the trek and for the US to make sure our Border Patrol gets the funds it need to keep the borders patrolled properly. 

My statement is not political...but factual.  Both Democrats and Republicans are assholes when it comes to this topic. 

A wall will do nothing.  The Border Patrol doesn't shoot folks as they cross over...unless they are shot at.   The places you mentioned shot the majority of those that try to cross over their borders, just as Ray said.

There....I'm done......for the time being.

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